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O'Brien for Obama
Posted by Tim OBrien at 6:35 pm on October 5th

unpublished portrait of Barack Obama, 2008.

I've never just posted a video on Drawger without a piece of art I've done, so I've added a crop of a larger piece that is yet unpublished.  This post is NOT about the painting of Obama.



We are living in an historic time, one where we are presented with an erratic and increasingly desperate republican candidate who really has no plan for what his administration would do for the middle class other than the tired old promise of crumbs falling off the table.  On the other side we have a smart and measured democratic candidate with specific programs and a proven ability to deal with issues in a thoughtful way.  No erratic stunts from him, such as picking a frighteningly unqualified running mate, suspending his campaign for nothing, and now starting an announced and already discredited smear campaign against Obama.  The choice is abundantly clear that America needs a change and Barack Obama is the right man for the job. 



In this historic election, there is the issue of race at play that has yet to be effectively discussed in my opinion.  Obama is running as an American, not an African American, but there are still parts of this country that only see race.  It is partly a generational split, but the more insidious issue is what is sometimes called "the Bradley effect" .  This refers to a frequently observed discrepancy between voter opinion polls and election outcomes in American political campaigns when a white candidate and a non-white candidate run against each other.  It's named after Tom Bradley, an African-American who lost the 1982 California governor's race despite being ahead in voter polls.  The Bradley effect refers to a tendency on the part of voters -- black as well as white -- to tell pollsters that they are undecided or likely to vote for a black candidate, and yet, on election day, change their vote. 

One theory for the Bradley effect is that some white voters give inaccurate polling responses for fear that, by stating their true preference, they will open themselves to criticism. This effect is similar to people refusing to discuss voting choice at all. If you state you are undecided, you can avoid being forced into a political discussion with someone highly partisan. The reluctance to give accurate polling answers has sometimes extended to post-election exit polls as well. The race of the pollster conducting the interview may be a factor into voters' answers.



It's sad to imagine this STILL happening in America but it's true.  I hope discussing it causes people to think about the only the ISSUES in the voting booth.

Still, I feel that when politicians discuss race they skirt the issue as to not sound like they are accusing anyone of anything.  Change has to come from us.


I saw this amazing speech earlier today and I was deeply moved by it.  Thanks Edel for showing it to me.  The speech comes from AFL-CIO Secretary Treasurer Richard Trumka.  He's a third generation coal miner from Pennsylvania who went on to receive  his degree from Penn State and then his law degree from Villanova.  I believe he gave this speech on July 1st 2008.


www.youtube.com/watch




Thanks for giving it a look and pass it on.


 

AFL-CIO's Richard Trumka

 
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A Mammoth Problem
Posted by Tim OBrien at 1:11 pm on September 24th

The Final Cover

Here is another thing to worry about.  The permafrost in Siberia is melting.

I recently did a cover and opener for Stamford Magazine.  They were really great people to work with.  Hats off to Amy Shroads.

The article was a fascinating mone that detailed the aweful situation in Siberia.  Global warming is effecting and melting the permafrost.  As the permafrost melts, what lies beneath is just starting to decay.  And what is beneath the surface?  Dead animals and most prominently, frozen and rotting Wooly Mammoths.  The stink is sickening because in bogs all over Siberia, methane gas rises and creates a greenhouse effect that traps heat and speeds up he cycle.  One fellow, Sergei Zimov also speculates that the lack of large herbivores such as the mammoths means trees don't get consumed and trampled and these forests are traveling north.  Unlike short grass which is covered by snow in the winter, trees are dark and catch the sun's rays and heat up the area which again keeps the cycle going.  Sergei is trying to use larger animals such as horses to recreate the environment where plants are consumed and the forests are kept in check.


 I am just trying to be an illustrator.  What a slacker.



I did a sketch of a side-view of the earth with a mammoth underground.  This was chosen as in interior and the cover was a more simple and powerful image of a Mammoth. 

I had a blast doing it.  Still, now I have to worry about this?

Think happy thoughts...think happy thoughts.


 

Rough of mammoth cover

 

unused sketch

 

approved sketch

 

The cover without type

 


 

Glorious!

 

This is the interior sketch. I think it was going to be the cover at first but perhaps it was thought to be gross. That's my hunch.

 

parmafrost

 

Detail interior

 

Detail again. I love the bubbles!

 

The interior final

 
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The Last 8 years and 4 more?
Posted by Tim OBrien at 10:28 am on September 9th

A close-up of the cover.

Meanwhile back in Washington... Just in case any of you haven't noticed, the last 8 years have been a long steep decline for a majority of Americans. The republicans have had control of the White House and have really wrecked this country. Thousands of new tombstones for young men and woman, devastating injuries to survivors from attacks in a war pitched for one cause then flipped for another are it's legacy. The trickle-down theory was tested on America yet again and guess what?... the rich got richer and jobs did NOT grow and incomes did NOT go up. Did it work as pitched? No. So we must all agree that the Bush years were just awful. I did this cover for Mother Jones about a month ago, out right now. At the time I was absolutely sure that America was sick of the last 8 years. The cover story was about the ways to move past these last 8 years. The award-winning creative director Tim Luddy at Mother Jones called with this fun idea of Bush as the Wicked Witch melting with other characters around him; Barack as Dorothy, McCain as the Cowardly Lion and my favorite, Cheney as a flying monkey. I did wonder if having McCain as a Cowardly Lion would be 'leading with our chin' and offered a sketch of him as the Tin Man, squeaking "Oil, oil" but that one was rejected for the Lion. After seeing the cover I see the two asterisks that reveal on page 2 this funny explanation: **As for you my friend, your a victim of disorganized thinking...you're confusing courage with wisdom" -The Wizard to the Cowardly Lion. Brilliant! I can't resist here pointing our to anyone still on the fence in this election that the plan that McCain/Palin have for the next 4-8 years is to continue the Bush tax policy, the social agenda perhaps more focused on ending a woman's right to choose, a carbon-based energy policy of drilling everywhere in American and lying that it will end foreign dependency( it won't) and finally, not a single program to help the middle class of any worth. Ding, dong, the Bush years are almost over but as Bush once warned: "fool me once, shame on ... shame on you. It fool me. We can't get fooled again."





Finally this issue is FILLED with great illustration...Steve Brodner, Mark Matcho, Peter Arkle, Ralph Steadman, Yuko Shimizu, Jason Holley, Harry Campbell, John Ueland, Juliette Borda, and Christian Northeast.


 

The fun cover

 

Here is my idea of McCain as a Tin Man...you know, old rusted seeking oil? In the end the solution they had was brilliant!

 

I loved doing these little paintings

 


 

see the two asterisks?

 

This one was difficult.

 

Mark Matcho
As mentioned above, this issue is filled with great illustrations thanks to Tim Luddy and the rest of the art department AND the illustrators...forgive the bad shots, but I thought they should be here...
 

Peter Arkle

 

Ralph Steadman

 

Yuko Shimizu

 

Serg Bloch

 

Steve Brodner...sorry for the glare

 

Jason Holley

 

Harry Campbell

 

John Ueland

 

Juliette Borda

 

Christian Northeast

 
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Sandhogs
Posted by Tim OBrien at 2:03 pm on September 6th

Eddie Rosenstein, documentary film maker
Life can be strange and wonderful all at the same time. We've all had these things happen; a great event is oddly intertwined with another.
My friend EddieRosenstein is a documentary film maker and screenwriter and
this Sunday night at 10 PM on the History Channel, his new series 'Sandhogs' will premier. Also this Sunday evening is the last performance of the musical 'Rent' on Broadway.
Here's the story.
Eddie was best friends and for years writing partner with the creator of the musical, Jonathan Larson. He watched him toil and craft this piece, a musical based on Puccini's La Bohème and re-imagined taking place in modern New York. Larson's narrator and main character in the piece is a documentary film maker 'Mark', based on Eddie, a guy who won't put the camera down. As most already know, Larson died of an aortic aneurism when it was in previews. It won rave reviews, changed Broadway and won the Tony and Pulitzer Prize. When Jonathan passed, Eddie was there to find his friend.

Eddie is an amazing talent. He is wildly curious and has a great eye for where the story is. He is full of ideas and enthusiasm and several years ago Eddie became interested in the fascinating world of the sandhogs. These men are to ones who build tunnels under NY City. For 150 years this close knit but fairly unknown group does dangerous work underground. We travel through their tunnels and survive drinking water through them as well.
It is not easy to get underground as a civilian, and there have only been a select few who have had the chance. To be able to be down there for more that one day required some real sacrifice for Eddie. He found out that it would be much more acceptable to the men if he BECAME a sandhog. So, Eddie began waking up in the predawn hours and went to work under Manhattan as a real Sandhog. He joined the union and earned the trust to begin filming. Eddie likes to point out that he is the first Jewish Sandhog.
History Channel picked up the work he was doing and offered him a series. It chronicles the lives and dangerous work of these men.

This Sunday night Eddie will not be a launch party for the Sandhogs series or at a gathering with the men who are in the piece, he will be at the closing of Rent.

Congratulations Eddie and I hope all of you check it out or Tivo it.

Morgan Curran; SANDHOG
 


 

The late Jonathan Larson

 

Anthony Rapp played 'Mark' or Eddie on Broadway

 

One final note, congratulations to the whole Rosenstein/Blanco family.  Randi, Isaiah and August all supported Eddie with love and understanding throughout the entire endeavor.
 
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Hunger Games
Posted by Tim OBrien at 7:02 pm on September 4th

The final cover
Elizabeth Parisi, my wife and Executive Art Director at Scholastic worked on a job this Spring that went on and on and on.  Part of the reason was that everyone who read the manuscript  loved it and imagined different images and solutions.
This seems to be an important book for Scholastic and they and she spent quite a bit of effort trying to get it right.  Great illustrators were hired to do covers for this book and the versions they came up with were inspired.  Still, not everyone was on board yet and I watched Elizabeth anguish over this for weeks.  She doodled a sketch of a pendant of a bird (RISD graduate in illustration) and asked if I could do a sketch for her to show.  I did and it worked.  People jumped on board and I took it to finish. 
I think the cover is quite powerful and the book is a hit.  This coming week Stephen Kind gave it a great review in the upcoming Entertainment Weekly.

I'm about to start the second book and I've promised to not procrastinate.  It's tough being married to the Art Director.




 

My sketch for the bird. I had done a cover of an arrow earlier for her but it was not taken to finish...this one was approved.

 

Tone was added to show how it might look in the final

 

this is a version that might have worked but the chain was dropped. Probably would scare off young male readers (my hunch)

 

This is the final art.

 
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Endless Summer
Posted by Tim OBrien at 4:25 pm on September 2nd

Cassius in Eagles Mere Lake. He'll swim in any water, any temperature.
I have spent another wonderful summer in the Endless Mountains and at the Atlantic coast.  I am sure all of you have had great summers too and it is really self indulgent to offer photographs of the summer, but I can't resist.
The summer started with a trip to the Vineyard which I posted about before.  As we have every year, we headed off to the town of Eagles Mere in Pennsylvania.
For a brief period of time we visited Marc and Janice Burkhardt (and Gertie) on Peaks Island in Maine.  That was great and I hope to go back again soon (THANKS MARC!)
Finally I ended the summer with a long period of time back up in Eagles Mere. 

Today I am back in the studio doing jobs, planning my teaching and hearing about Cash's first day of school.  A great summer.  I hope for a great Fall!
 

Great vista of World's End State park at Canyon Vista.

 

The lake at Eagles Mere is an amazing place. Around it is a path. The lake does not allow motor boats or building on the lake. There are some structures but all are old and are grandfathered in. This is a view of the path around the lake...

 

on the path...

 

on the path again...

 

This is a place called 'Lover's Leap' on the path.

 

There is a boat on the lake that is allowed a motor. It's an old one that is called the Hardly Able. It takes you around the lake so cars are not needed to get around...Elizabeth and Luka on the Hardly Able.

 

Vacationing is exhausting.

 


 

In the woods kids (and big kids) build these tiny structures called fairy houses.  Here are a few...
 


 


 

We decided to build a tree fairy house...

 

Cassius working hard

 


 

It's a two bedroom with a great view.

 

I taught Cash the joys of walking in corn fields.

 

Leaving every week was hard...

 

We then went to Maine's Peaks Island.  The O'Briens make quite a splash...
 

Marc and Cassius on the rocks

 

Gertie was regal and wonderful

 

Great landscapes everywhere you look...

 

Rocky coastlines and stark white birch trees are quite a sight.

 


 


 


 


 

With views everywhere I looked, it was hard to draw; better to photograph it.

 


 


 


 

saw a full moon rise the night before we left...

 

My hair is wilder than usual by the sea.

 

Cassius will swim in any water.

 

The Burkhardts and the sea. Cassius liked calling Marc 'Captain Marc'

 


 


 

Peaks Island has their own kind of Fairy houses and people use the unique, flat rocks to leave structures. The effect is lovely.

 

We returned to Eagles Mere and saw the green with fresh eyes.  There is a smell to being there.  Pine and clean wind.
 

The beach on the lake

 

I drew the Hardly Able on some tree fungus. The next day the line rises up and the effect is that of an embossed print.

 

The Democratic Convention was view via laptop to projector.

 

We went to Knoebles Amusement Park. You have to see it to believe it.

 


 

In the final few days, the weather was rainy and as usual we went to the Forksville Fair in drizzle.  I like it that way.
 


 

the day I was there was the 4H livestock auction.

This is Sam

 

I saw this and thought I knew just the guy who would look just right sitting at this booth.

 

He's eating Freedom Fries.
These are my favorite images I shot that day.  The sad and tired Republican Headquarters at the Forksville Fair...
 

Come in...it's warm and welcoming in here!

 

I searched for the Democrats' Headquarters...none exists. The only thing there was an unmanned booth in a barn with canned peaches and needle point.
I sat there ready to move the electorate to vote in their own best interest.

 

 

The last day at the lake was glorious. I got married right here at the lake's edge in a clearing called Gypsy's Landing.

 

a watercolor of the end of summer.
Thanks for scrolling through all of these images.  I think I needed to post them in order to get into the fall.

See you all at Politics 08!
 
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2008 China Olympic Games
Posted by Tim OBrien at 11:24 am on August 4th

Relationships are the threads that bind together a long career in illustration. I got my start as an illustrator offering clients tight realistic paintings. Of course, my subjects and style evolved over the years, offering new ways to use this realism, but the genre is one that is not practiced by as many illustrators as there were when I started. I work pretty hard to stay in the game and really enjoy my clients. It's these clients who trust me with their deadlines and assignments and give my career wings. The relationships that come from this work is not often spoken about.
I have such great art directors I work with, such as Arthur Hochstein, Florian Bachleda, Dave Matt, Jeanne Lee, Stefan Kiefer, Elizabeth Parisi and so many others. Joe Zeff is a friend and former AD from Time that gave me a ton of Time covers when he was there. He liked the way I worked I guess, and trusted me to come through for him. Joe is also an extremely talented artist and left Time to start his own freelance career. His CGI illustration work is the best I know of. We remain friends and he still thinks of me when certain assignments come to him that are not quite the best fit. Joe works for the New York Times on occasion as do I, and recently turned down an assignment again and suggesting me in his place.
Wayne Kamidoi at the Times is a smart and positive art director whom I've worked for doing opener packages for in the past. I did a few big Tiger Woods sections for him and this time had a fun assignment to pitch.
Could I do a landscape painting of the Chinese Olympics in the style of an old chinese silk painting? I have done some work like this in the past for Business Week when discussing Asian markets.
This one was a challenge in that I had to insert new landmarks into the scene I came up with as well as a hint of some sports. That was tough as the point of view I came up with was far away. Little boats became a rowing race and a mountain range turned into a marathon road race.
Getting the look right was important. At first I did some golden scenes but a grayish landscape sample provided me a good roadmap to follow for not only the color but a way to add hints of color here and there.
In the end I was able to get approval and do the piece. Last week I stayed up a few days in a row and got it done. This one was fun and today when I opened the New York Times I saw the section and was thrilled not only with the way it printed (always a crapshoot on newsprint) but that Wayne again allowed me to have the credit read; painting by Tim O'Brien.

Thanks Wayne and Joe.
 

I often groan at doing multiple figures but I always forget that when they are so small, they are a breeze.
This piece is mostly a pencil drawing with oil paint and gouache on top.

 

This was a file I sent with the final. I thought the added texture might make it look more like an old silk painting. Wayne liked it, but thought it might look like bad printing.

 

This is a 1600's painting that I used as a guide for style

 

and another

 

This was my mood and color guide

 

The New York Times.

 
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Stained Glass Lovers
Posted by Tim OBrien at 11:15 am on July 1st

Final art
It's a common occurrence; go on vacation and get calls for work.  Not just calls but good calls.  Time, a long time client seems to be the most common vacation call.

Years ago I arrived at Eagles Mere, PA to start a week long vacation.  I turned around and left without unpacking for a cover.  I've also missed Time calls while out of town.

I have learned to bring supplies with me and try to accommodate my clients while chilling out. 

Some may ask my I would not just say "I'm not available".
I actually can have a better time knowing I'm plugged in and needed.  It's soothes a deep, career-long insecurity.  Maybe one day I'll get over it.

This year's call was from Time and it sounded like it was a job I could start in the Vineyard and finish at home. 

The assignment was to paint a stained glass window of a couple either in an embrace or more and a spot of a book in a window.

The article, out this week, is about a few Christian groups/churches that advocate intimacy plus frequency for married couples. 
From the article:

" Genesis, chapter 2 verse 24, says a man "shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh." But how liberally to define cleave? That was the very special Bible query the Rev. Stacy Spencer and his wife Rhonda took up last month with 252 married people at their New Direction Christian Church in Memphis, Tenn. And the Spencers' answer was ... encouraging. Does frequent sex have a place in marriage? Yep. Oral sex? Read the Song of Solomon 2: 3 for assurance. How about role-playing? One participant expressed a yearning to see her husband dressed as a police officer. The Good Book offers no specifics on that, so Stacy Spencer allowed that it was up to the woman, "as long as you're not lusting after a particular officer. Jesus talked about spiritual adultery, and that could be spiritual adultery. But if it's just a generic cop, go for it."

Superior sex can be difficult for some couples to discuss with each other, let alone with their pastor. But having taken on almost every other aspect of their congregants' lives, churches oriented toward young adults and Gen Xers have begun promoting not just better sex, but more of it. Well, not just promoting it but penciling it in. When New Direction launched its "40 Nights of Grrreat Sex" program, the Spencers gave participants daily planners. A typical week is marked "Sun: Worship together"; "Mon: Give your wife a full body massage"; "Tues: Quickie in any room besides the bedroom"; "Wed: Pleasure your partner"; "Thurs: Read 1 Corinthians 7--How can I please you more?"; and so on.
New Direction is not the only church promoting a frequent-sex regimen. In February, Paul Wirth, pastor of the Relevant Church in Tampa, Fla., issued what he called "The 30-Day Sex Challenge." The program featured an extensive questionnaire, a Bible verse a day and the assumption that participants would engage in some kind of sex each night."



Doing this job on Martha's Vineyard required me to go to Chilmark library and do some sketches.  I was sent some reference of couples  and when downloading them, it looked like I was a perverted New Yorker downloading racy photos while on vacation.  I hunched over the laptop probably drawing even more attention to myself.  I imagined the embarrassment of being sent out of the building, surely making it to the local paper.

My sketch was good I thought but there were some questions coming back.  Not as smooth as I had hoped.  Addressing those comments, I came in closer with another couple and I think it was a better read and less like an Abercrombie & Fitch ad.

In the end my revised sketch was approved and at home I did the art and spot very quickly.  <a href="http://www.drawger.com/tonka/index.php?section=comments&article_id=3806" target="_blank">I had done this kind of thing before for Time so how to do it was not difficult.</a>
I will tell you that when I finished my sketches that day in the library, we headed off to Menemsha and the Dock  and I ate a dozen oysters on the half-shell. 
 

A quick sketch of a young couple. Perhaps being in the library made me put underwear on them.

 

Approved!

 

close up

 

Closer. The trick of doing stained glass is a breeze and it means the drawing an painting can be imperfect, that a marker can be used to draw the line around the pieces of class, and a small shot of lead at the joints makes it look real. Also, making the glass color shift slightly and change texture add to the trick.

 

Now the book was SOOO easy. I doodle books every day while on the phone. I like the way they look open and doing this piece was fun. The type was not.


 

Final art

 

Closer

 

Closer

 

the end

 
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Martha's Vineyard 2008
Posted by Tim OBrien at 5:50 pm on June 24th

The house from the back
For the 14th year in a row, Elizabeth and I  started our summer by going to Martha's Vineyard.  The location of our honeymoon, this spot in Chilmark is really breathtaking.  For the past few years we have gone with our friends and their kids so it's a really fun time.  Eddie Rosenstein, who is a documentary film maker, (look for his series on the History Channel on the Sand Hogs) is a great cook and does his magic in the kitchen each night.  Randi Blanco is fun and athletic and game for any adventure and their kids Isaiah and August are great  and together with Cassius, have a great time.

I spent quite a bit of my time working on art in some way.  First, I took a job while I was there from Time.... more on that later.

I created a trompe l'oeil on the ceiling of the main house.  A few years ago the old ceiling was damaged and a plank had to be replaced.  I was asked to try to make this stark white plank fit in the room again.  Some of the family wanted a match of the wood there already and some wanted a look at blue sky.  I had no opinion either way but thought of a solution when I was asked to come up with an idea myself.  One idea was to have a broken board up there with some light shining through.  This was passed over after I saw a window there that looked great and would be a good model for a relica of sorts up there.
 

Here is the ceiling before I began. I just washed one side...(thanks to Peter Darling for the step ladder)

 

Ready to work

 

Plotting it out

 

More plotting and fretting over the finality of it all.

 

I painted this very quickly but it had to be in layers, so I started in gouache to get 'close' to the value and color. The good thing about that is that it dries instantly and had tooth enough to draw on.

 

First pass and it's looking okay.

 

I drew on some grain with colored pencil.

 

Time to move to the other side. I was stuck for a while because I couldn't find a ruler. I had to make one out of a piece of cardboard.
I realized that the light would almost always come from the bottom left so I painted it with that lighting situation.

 

Time for the oil paint. I would glaze several times over the left side panel to try to match the color and depth of the ceiling wood. The window and sky were something I pondered for a while. Should I do puffy "O'Brien" clouds or clouds I think of when I'm there. I opted for light, wispy ones.

 

I had to be careful with all sprays and paint to not get in on anything near it.

 


 

Back to the window. It was HOT up there and very difficult to paint on that odd angle. Luckily for me, the look of this lovely camp is kind of rustic. Edges COULD be a bit wobbly.

 

The payoff was getting to remove the tape.

 

Here is the window. Small flaked chips of paint are seen as are rusty hinges and a hook/question mark below.

 


 
The vacation itself was needed.  I was overworked and so was everyone else, including Cassius.  I ran two long runs to Vineyard Haven, ate great food and laughed hard.  I did have a few drinks here and there, I won't lie.



 

 

The boys walking the road

 

New dog Luka is still a bit of a city girl.

 

Now this is an air pump!

 

Vacation is a time to try out how good you are at balancing on a bike rack. Eddie was the best on this day.
We had just left the pub.

 

Luka and Elizabeth

 

Cassius turned 8 and a half on the 18th.

 

We love the Vineyard in early June because no one is there yet. Solitude.

 

Catch of the day is actually lobster bait. Menemsha Dock (where Jaws was filmed)

 

The boys love crabbing. The funny thing was I went to the fish market and asked Stanley for some scraps and he gave me a big hunk of Tuna and some swordfish. I had paid handsomely for the same stuff the night before!

 

I have this routine that I started not long ago of painting on the hands of kids with gouache and watercolor. They all have elaborate requests and it's really fun...for a while.
 


 


 

Peter DeSeve was orphaned at Chilmark Store. He had JUST done that piece too. Pity.

 

Cassius learned and loved to Boogie board!

 

A reminder of the home falling apart at home

 


 

A view down the beach at the cliffs.

 

Beach combing is important work

 

No one wanted to leave.
So, another year and a great visit to paradise. I love it there and of course doing a job for Time and a sketch for another client made me feel so able to live anywhere.
Elizabeth is a busy NY City Executive Art Director and that health insurance is mighty sweet as well. Back to Brooklyn...until
Eagles Mere!
 
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Tim Russert
Posted by Tim OBrien at 6:11 pm on June 13th

Tim Russert
1950-2008
I am so sad at the sudden passing of Tim Russert. Decent.
He just seemed so decent. Smart, and genuine. If he asked someone a question he drew out a serious honest reply because he was so earnest and honest.
I painted his portrait a few years ago for Irish American Magazine.
Hard to imagine it is he who passed before big Russ.
Death out of order is illogical and unfair.



 
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